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	<title>Comments on: More PHP frameworks</title>
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		<title>By: Seek3r</title>
		<link>http://phpkitchen.com/2002/12/more-php-frameworks/comment-page-1/#comment-197</link>
		<dc:creator>Seek3r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Often overlooked because of its groupware slant, the API is nothing more than a generic framework. As a testament to its usefulness the collection of apps for phpGW is quite long and various.&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phpgroupware.org&quot;&gt;http://www.phpgroupware.org&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Often overlooked because of its groupware slant, the API is nothing more than a generic framework. As a testament to its usefulness the collection of apps for phpGW is quite long and various.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.phpgroupware.org">http://www.phpgroupware.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: demian</title>
		<link>http://phpkitchen.com/2002/12/more-php-frameworks/comment-page-1/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>demian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>added, thanks :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>added, thanks <img src='http://phpkitchen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://phpkitchen.com/2002/12/more-php-frameworks/comment-page-1/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ampoliros is a framework / application server too. Have a look at its white paper (http://www.ampoliros.com/en/docs/whitepaper.php) and at this interview about ampoliros: http://www.oetrends.com/cgi-bin/page_display.cgi?136</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ampoliros is a framework / application server too. Have a look at its white paper (<a href="http://www.ampoliros.com/en/docs/whitepaper.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.ampoliros.com/en/docs/whitepaper.php</a>) and at this interview about ampoliros: <a href="http://www.oetrends.com/cgi-bin/page_display.cgi?136" rel="nofollow">http://www.oetrends.com/cgi-bin/page_display.cgi?136</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://phpkitchen.com/2002/12/more-php-frameworks/comment-page-1/#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I screwed that HTML up nicely.  Let&#039;s try again:&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.midgard-project.org/&quot;&gt;Midgard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://phrame.itsd.ttu.edu/&quot;&gt;Phrame&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I screwed that HTML up nicely.  Let&#8217;s try again:
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<li><a href="http://www.midgard-project.org/">Midgard</a>
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<li><a href="http://phrame.itsd.ttu.edu/">Phrame</a>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://phpkitchen.com/2002/12/more-php-frameworks/comment-page-1/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.midgard-project.org/&quot;&gt;Midgard/a&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a hreff=&quot;http://phrame.itsd.ttu.edu/&quot;&gt;Phrame&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;-- pb@dbex.org</description>
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<li><a href="http://www.midgard-project.org/">Midgard/a>
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<p>&#8211; <a href="mailto:pb@dbex.org">pb@dbex.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: demian</title>
		<link>http://phpkitchen.com/2002/12/more-php-frameworks/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>demian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To keep a level playing field the survey needs to be restricted to Open Source projects, ie projects licensed under GPL or GPL-compatible licenses.  The goal after all is for developers to be able to learn from frameworks out there, something which the Krysalis license, for example, prohibits.

If anyone knows what license Fusebox is under please let me know, it doesn\&#039;t seem to have any license at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To keep a level playing field the survey needs to be restricted to Open Source projects, ie projects licensed under GPL or GPL-compatible licenses.  The goal after all is for developers to be able to learn from frameworks out there, something which the Krysalis license, for example, prohibits.</p>
<p>If anyone knows what license Fusebox is under please let me know, it doesn\&#8217;t seem to have any license at all.</p>
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		<title>By: demian</title>
		<link>http://phpkitchen.com/2002/12/more-php-frameworks/comment-page-1/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>demian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the suggestion, please see next comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the suggestion, please see next comment</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://phpkitchen.com/2002/12/more-php-frameworks/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eZ publish most definately is. What confuses people is it also provides a whole load of ready rolled applications but you\&#039;re not forces to use any of them.

One other for the list: Krysalis http://www.interakt.ro/products/Krysalis/index.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eZ publish most definately is. What confuses people is it also provides a whole load of ready rolled applications but you\&#8217;re not forces to use any of them.</p>
<p>One other for the list: Krysalis <a href="http://www.interakt.ro/products/Krysalis/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.interakt.ro/products/Krysalis/index.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: demian</title>
		<link>http://phpkitchen.com/2002/12/more-php-frameworks/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>demian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2002 01:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments, I\&#039;ve removed PHlexDB as per your wishes.

One of the things I was trying to achieve was to point people in the direction of the relative strengths of each framework listed.  PHlexDB, for example, I believe has one of the more interesting APIs for data modelling and has an edge with \&quot;automatically filtering [data] on row-level permissions\&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, I\&#8217;ve removed PHlexDB as per your wishes.</p>
<p>One of the things I was trying to achieve was to point people in the direction of the relative strengths of each framework listed.  PHlexDB, for example, I believe has one of the more interesting APIs for data modelling and has an edge with \&quot;automatically filtering [data] on row-level permissions\&quot;.</p>
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		<title>By: hlellelid</title>
		<link>http://phpkitchen.com/2002/12/more-php-frameworks/comment-page-1/#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>hlellelid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As flattered as I am to see my PHlexDB included, I would have to agree that PHlexDB is really not an application framework.  It\&#039;s a content management framework -- in so much as PHlexDB provides any \&quot;framework\&quot; it\&#039;s just a framework for working with inter-related content entities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As flattered as I am to see my PHlexDB included, I would have to agree that PHlexDB is really not an application framework.  It\&#8217;s a content management framework &#8212; in so much as PHlexDB provides any \&quot;framework\&quot; it\&#8217;s just a framework for working with inter-related content entities.</p>
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