We had never really met or spent any time together. So I called him up, we had lunch. He had a beard, I had a beard; he had three kids, I had three kids; he refereed soccer, I refereed soccer. We hit it off. I made him a job offer which he accepted [...].

Charles Geschke, cofounder of Adobe Systems, speaking about hiring John Warnock at Xerox PARC. Again, from "Founders at Work".